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The Traditional Latin Mass is Superior To the Novus Ordo

There exist stark differences between the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass. Both Masses are valid in the Church. The Concise Catholic Dictionary defines valid as:

“founded on the truth or fact; in Church law, that which conforms to conditions essential to the efficacy of a sacrament; that is, the proper rite in administration, the intention and jurisdiction of the minister, and the moral fitness and intention of the recipient.”

There is much discussion about what direction the Novus Ordo Mass needs to take in order to be more reverent and fitting for proper worship. I believe the Church should restore the sacred and ban the Novus Ordo, and only offer the Latin Mass. In order to illustrate my line of thinking, I would like to present the following analogy:

The Mass is absolutely necessary for the health of the soul. Likewise, water is absolutely necessary for the health of the body. The Traditional Latin Mass, or the Mass of All Ages, has been celebrated by the Church for the last 2000 years. The Latin Mass is like pure water, which is found at its original source. There are no additives, pollutants, toxins or anything that would ruin its purity. The Novus Ordo is like water from a river filled with dirty pollutants.

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I want to make it abundantly and absolutely clear that one can drink from either the pure water (the TLM) or the polluted river (the NO) and survive. It is not wise to drink from the polluted river for too long, lest you suffer unwanted side affects. Similarly, attending Novus Ordo Masses in which there is little to no reverence and that resembles a Protestant service has unwanted side affects in one’s spiritual formation.

One can filter the water to help remove the pollutants. With regards to the Novus Ordo this filter would be reverence. However, no matter how many times the water runs through a filter, there will still be some trace amounts of pollutants in the water. It is not pure. The less reverent the Novus Ordo Mass, the more pollutants there are in the water. Similarly, no matter how much reverence is added to the Novus Ordo, there will still be remnants of Modernism and Protestantism. Modernism is defined by Pope St. Pius X as the synthesis of all heresies and was rightly condemned in his encyclical Pascendi Dominici Gregis. For a great summary of Modernism, please check out The Old Evangelization’s Modernism Series.

Now, using this analogy, if one were to see a vast group of people drinking water from a polluted river, knowing full well there is a pure source of water to drink, you would have them stop drinking from the polluted river and drink from the pure spring. If there were not pure spring available, it would suffice to drink the polluted water after it has been repeatedly filtered. However, we know that there exists a pure spring that has enough water to hydrate the entire world.

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While it is admirable to want to slowly move people over from an irreverent Novus Ordo to a reverent Novus Ordo, so they can appreciate the Traditional Latin Mass, it makes little sense when the above analogy is applied. Unfiltered polluted water is bad for the body. It will allow the individual to continue to survive, but it will cause other negative effects to the body. An irreverent Novus Ordo, assuming the words of consecration are said properly, will feed the soul the necessary food required for it, but will cause ill formed consciences and catechesis. What’s best for a person who is drinking polluted water is to give him the fresh, pure water, no matter how much he fights it. Filtered water is far better for an individual than unfiltered water, but pure water is far superior and will provide lasting positive effects. Likewise, a reverent Novus Ordo Mass better for Catholics than an irreverent Novus Ordo, but a Traditional Latin Mass is most superior and provides ever-lasting effects which assist Catholics in their sanctification.

The argument that an individual who is attending an irreverent Novus Ordo, or even a reverent Novus Ordo will leave the Church if the Traditional Latin Mass is forced upon him seems silly. If he was to leave the Church because of his Mass preferences, than he wasn’t a faithful Catholic to begin with. It is not our job to keep every single Catholic within the Church, but to give those members of the Church who want to become Saints the tools to do so.

Using the water analogy, if a group of people stop drinking water and die of dehydration because they do not want to drink the purified water, than that is the problem of those who are too prideful to admit they are wrong.

Some argue that if the Church immediately moved over from the Novus Ordo, either irreverent or reverent, to the Traditional Latin Mass, it would cause many Catholics to leave the Church. While it is admirable to bring over as many Catholics as possible to the Traditional Latin Mass, it is imperative to realize we are dealing with souls. We aren’t dealing with hydration and the physical body, but rather, with spiritual food and the soul.

It may be better to drink from the polluted river than to die of dehydration, but to keep people from drinking out of the pure stream because they might die of dehydration if we move them over to pure water too soon is a cop out. If people want to stay alive, they will drink the water that is put in front of them. If Catholics truly believe in the Church and her authority, they will attend the Traditional Latin Mass. It might even be time to realize Pope Benedict XVI was correct when he said “From the crisis of today the Church of tomorrow will emerge—a Church that has lost much. It will become small and will have to start afresh more or less from the beginning.” If the Eucharist is the source and summit of  the Christian Life, then perhaps the Novus Ordo Mass is the perfect place to start afresh.

Jeff April 9, 2015 2 Comments Permalink

Catholic Church Founded in 1963, Historians Find

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Vatican City – Historians uncovered shocking documentation Thursday of the Catholic Church’s founding being in 1963, rather than the year 33 as was once thought and believed.

This comes as wonderful news to some. Father Gregory O’Hannity, Pastor of Our Lady of the Small Pond Out Back said “If you think about it, there isn’t any documentation prior to 1963 which supports this claim. Once the Second Vatican Council was called to order, the Holy Spirit descended upon those holy men present and founded the Church upon their faith.”

Zechariah Smith, a Catholic who attends the neighboring FSSP parish argued, “This is outrageous! Another example of anti-Catholics trying to discredit Christ and His Church”. “The Church was founded by Christ in 33 A.D. upon St. Peter and there exists mountains of documents and doctrinal evidence prior to 1963 to prove it” he stated while holding up his copies of Denzinger and Ott.

Vatican Spokesman Fr. Frederico Lombardi, S.J. stated, “I really don’t know what to believe anymore. Just give us a couple of days and we’ll iron it all out.” He then rushed out of the press conference to the nearest bar. Barfly Tim O’Hannigan stated he was unsure of what Father had ordered but knew it was a double and to keep them coming.

This is satire.

Jeff December 10, 2014 4 Comments Permalink

USCCB Releases American Catholics From Sunday Obligation

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Washington, DC- Late Wednesday morning, the USCCB announced Catholics in America are no longer bound to attend Mass on Sundays.

At a scheduled press conference, Archbishop Scott Wiley stated “with the difficulty it takes for the average American Catholic to attend a weekly Sunday Mass, we determined to abrogate the mandatory requirement. Besides, the Second Vatican Council brought in fresh breath within the Church. We can not spread the Good News if we as Catholics are stuck in Mass for an hour each week.”

Archbishop Wiley cited clear teaching from Pope Francis’ Wednesday audience in February of 2014 when the Holy Father declared “If you do not feel in need of God’s mercy, if you do not feel you are a sinner, then it’s better not go to Mass, because we go to Mass because we are sinners and we want to receive the forgiveness of Jesus, to participate in His redemption, His forgiveness.”

This comes as great news for some Catholics. Josh Peters, parisioner of St. Malarchy in Brooklyn, New York told us, “it’s difficult to get up on Sunday after staying up late with friends Saturday night. Then you’ve got Sunday football which takes up most of the afternoon and evening, plus tailgating and socializing prior to the game. You really don’t have time to fit in Mass.”

At press time, Archbishop Wiley mentioned “most American Catholics have already stopped going to Mass on Sundays anyways. We’ve already lifted the obligation for most of our feasts, so really, this was the next logical step. But don’t worry, Easter and Christmas are still Holy Days, for now.”

Jeff December 3, 2014 7 Comments Permalink

The TradCast Episode 01

On the first episode of the TradCast, I give you a bit of history about me. I discuss my experience at the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis’ Rediscover: Catholic Celebration. What do you do with your orthodox leanings in a progressive parish? And finally, what does it mean to be Catholic and who do we look to in this day when modernism reigns supreme?

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Currently, you can download or listen from SoundCloud. Due to some technical difficulties and lack of foresight on my part, this is the only way you can listen to it. I am working on getting iTunes and self-hosted working soon.

Enjoy and thanks for listening!

One correction, the verse is Romans 16:17-19

Jeff October 14, 2014 3 Comments Permalink

What Vatican 2 Actually Said: Don’t Change the Liturgy

It bothers me when I attend a Novus Ordo Mass and a priest does things…different.

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I’m not talking about minor things here. I mean additions, subtractions or changes words around that he shouldn’t be changing. When I offer up a complaint, I am responded with “he’s a priest, he’s allowed to do that.”

Interestingly enough, the Second Vatican Council has a response to that:

22. 1. Regulation of the sacred liturgy depends solely on the authority of the Church, that is, on the Apostolic See and, as laws may determine, on the bishop.

2. In virtue of power conceded by the law, the regulation of the liturgy within certain defined limits belongs also to various kinds of competent territorial bodies of bishops legitimately established.

3. Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority.

23. That sound tradition may be retained, and yet the way remain open to legitimate progress careful investigation is always to be made into each part of the liturgy which is to be revised. This investigation should be theological, historical, and pastoral. Also the general laws governing the structure and meaning of the liturgy must be studied in conjunction with the experience derived from recent liturgical reforms and from the indults conceded to various places. Finally, there must be no innovations unless the good of the Church genuinely and certainly requires them; and care must be taken that any new forms adopted should in some way grow organically from forms already existing.

As far as possible, notable differences between the rites used in adjacent regions must be carefully avoided.

The Second Vatican Council, while many times may be unclear, is clear that only the Magisterium of the Church can determine when a part of the Liturgy may be changed.

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This means that not the deacon, not the priest, not the Bishop, not even the Pope, can change something based on his personal preference. This right alone is left strictly for the Church to determine.

The Church is the safeguard of the liturgy. The next time you attend a Mass where the priest changes things to his liking, call him out. If he uses the Second Vatican Council in his defense, use this in yours.

Jeff August 5, 2014 2 Comments Permalink

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